The author of this article is not accepting the Biblical narrative of how dangerous Jezebel is. I think you need to consider that-thats your belief and opinion instead of trying to push that opinion you hold as a truth that you seem to be dictating that the Christians on this post must believe although their God has told them that the Christian faith is superior to all the others and that they are false. Violence in the Bible: Greatest Hits | HuffPost Contributor And furthermore, the writers of the Bible were against Jezebel from the start. In fact, in Johns gospel, Jesus calls him the prince of this world (John 12:31; 14:30; 16:11). ), but I see comments going back to 2013. Calling evil good? And God knows why you think you are the one to dictate to others that they must accept other peoples points of view; isnt that your point of view? James tells Christians that if they resist the devil, he will flee from them. Da Izabela nije poraena od Ilije, svjetska istorija bi bila drugaija, tako to ju je ubio, moralizam Jehove sada svijet ima zadovoljstvo. are your serious about archeology? She also minimizes the severity of the crime by simply writing that it is not admirable rather than criminal. This shows she actively taught the Israelites to live immoral lives. It seems that is what Jezebel was working on. Still a good paper I thought, ideas like these are important because they challenge us to look at the story again. Both of them should be equally condemned or equally forgiven. In fact, they acknowledge that. Answer me, O Lord, answer me, that this people may know that You, O Lord, are God; for You have turned their hearts backward (1 Kings 18:3637). She went into another country and waged a war of religion. 1. 32-37), Marjo Korpel writes in Jezebels Royal Seal, that out of thousands of seals found with Hebrew inscriptions, only 35 belong to women. Talk about feminism and civil rights all you like. Alternatively, as the author notes, harlotry could be a semantic term for her idolatrous behavior. Its safe and important to say to any Christian (or other reader) reading this article or the other materials on this website, that this website and organisation are not necessarily a Christian website or organisation that represent Christian views or speak for Christians, regardless of the word Biblical attached to their organisations name; they are simply what the title of their organisation and website communicatea Biblical Archaelogy Society. I believe that your comparison between Jezebel and Hitler is awefully interesting, but for a different reason than what you may think: They have only been seen as evil by people after their deaths because they lost a war. How does she do this? You are really trying to excuse and justify that? I have not read this entire Luciferian Raging Polemic justifying/and,or celebrating a woman whom AllMighty Jehovah labeled as Wicked and Idolater/Idol Worshipper. This text was written by a literature specialist, not by an archaeologist. A specific type of evil desire is known as greed. It identified 35 different offenses that earn a person capital punishment in the Bible. She has not absorbed the Bible with clarity and understanding. If a grouper can swallow a shark whole, Im sure God could find a fish big enough for Jonah.. 4. God is patient, willing that NONE perish, but to those who lift their hand or mouth against Him or his true people make no mistake: He will rise up and see to it that they are first fully confronted with the truth, and if they persist THEY seal THEIR OWN fateit might come by divine means or at the hands of others, but make no mistake at all: it is the result if their OWN choice to fight the truth or refuse to even consider the truth that has been clearly presented to them. Defending womens right is one thing. Because in her culture, the king was above the law. So no i dont agree with much of the thrust of this article. [] It is the gates of hell that are under assaultand they will not hold up against the Church. Yet God didnt unrighteously wipe out the entire nation of Egypt, it lives on today, i visited there a few years ago, The nation the people, and many historic sites have been beautifully preservedthe people who drowned were those who obeyed pharoahs orders to pursue Israel after Pharoah agreed to let them go! Romans 1 and other passages show the evil of idolatry. A person must WILLINGLY yield their soul to Christ Jesus and desire to serve God out of Love for Him. We know for sure that she broke five of the ten commandments by worshipping other gods, covetousness, stealing, false witness and murder, so I dont see how she could be called hard done by, at least certainly not in the sight of God. And yet Elijahs contest is a direct challenge to the queen who has brought the worship of Baal to the forefront in Israel by inviting the pagan prophets to the palace (compare with painting of the priests of Baal). The third action Jezebel takes before Jehu arrives is to sit at her upper window. A case against capital punishment can be made from John 8, where Jesus speaks words that can be construed as condemning the Couldnt Pharoah have made better choices at that point? 9 Herodias St Mark 6:22-25. We were not making a hero of her, but was saying that her strong loyalty to her belief and to her husband could be admirable. To allow this garbage to be released to the public exposes the fact that this organization at the very least allows the God of the Bile and the people of the Bible to be undermined and devalued, and at worst to put other gods on par with and or potentially above the God (YHWH) of the Bible. Religion was a very predominant aspect of society in those days and she hunted down YHWHs prophets to murder them so that Israels religion wouldnt have a voice; she was a foreigner in the land, who refused to honour the customs of the land and sought to disregard the laws, traditions and people of the land and committed homicide to accomplish her political and religious ambitions, although she wasnt the rightful ruler of the country but forced her way into power. What I found was that most of the Bible was neither horrible nor inspiring. Thereby leading directly to the path of apostasy and Anti-Christ. You may feel that we are subjected to your opinions and attempts at criticism and judgments but we are not. You are mistaken, Furienna. Her motives were very clear: she wanted to overthrow Israels system of worship and replace it with hers and she was willing to and did murder people for it; she specifically targeted the religious leaders of that system of worship and killed them; to clearly silence the voices of YHWHs and Israels chosen and approved system of worship. Only in todays America could one put this kind of twist on the story of Jezebel. The author of this piece is truly a Jezebel and I am sure she is quite proud of being equally deceptive. 5:5 ). Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. When early church member Ananias makes a shady donation, Peter asks, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit [] ? (Acts 5:3). Snakes have been associated with some of the oldest rituals known to mankind [1] [2] and represent dual expression [3] of good and evil. But right before I started reading the article, the Holy Spirit showed me a picture of a snake upon this article and the word deception. In fact, the threat of Jezebel is so great, the prophet Elijah summons the acolytes of Jezebel to a tournament on Mt. Whether Ahab realized it or not, the moment he took possession of Naboths vineyard, in the sight of all Israel he was putting his signet ring to her deeds and was willing to benefit from the death of an innocent countryman. We would not look at her highly since she followed a religion that required human sacrifice. Well said. I mean lets also remember that Jezebel sought to stamp out every remnant of the Lords worship and to kill every prophet of God unless they compromised their convictions and turned into yes men for Ahab. The word of God is Holy and true and you or anyone else will never change it. Yet there is much to admire in this ancient queen. And who suffered? They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever (Rev. Why must they tolerate treason against their God and country in their own kingdom? If you miss the point that the Word of God (the bible) is God (John 1:1), you miss the whole bible and it is of no effect. I believe that at the end of the day its all about what truth an individual stands under. Fools? Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place. So if you stopped seeing Elijah as a lily-white hero and Jezebel as a jet-black villain, you would see that they both are more complex than that. 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22, 1 John 4:1-5. Gender has little to do with it. The Bible calls him the devil, Satan, the evil Absolutely not. Once again, your Biblical and historical illiteracy betray you. They laughed at, mocked at and argued with Noah until that dreadful season of Judgment came. WebMatthew 15:1920 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man. For a reassessment of Ahabs character based on the archaeological remains of his building projects and extrabiblical texts, see Ephraim Stern, The Many Masters of Dor, Part 2: How Bad Was Ahab? BAR, March/April 1993. Whats the Meaning of the Tree of Life in the Bible? I like the modern approach but we dont need all this hateful name calling of the men in the bible it just strays the reader from your modern approach to this story. However, if Satan could do it all over, he probably wouldnt have taken this course of action. What are we afraid of? and one of the most dangerous and rebellious characters in the entire Bible. Those things were considered horrible already by the men, who wrote down the stories about here into the Bible. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000138#h=3:0-4:536 [Peabody, MA: Hendrickson, 1990], p. 478), the translation of the entire line is And Jezabel sent to Eliu, and said, If thou art Eliu and I am Jezabel, God do so to me, and more also, if I do not make thy life by this time tomorrow as the life of one of them.. You will find that out soon enough and I do truly pray you are finally on the right side when that day of reckoning comes because it comes for all people the Lord has given life to. Reproduction of material from any Salon pages without written permission is strictly prohibited. Web1. It needs little explanation when someone interprets literature under the guise of specialist in the Bible as literature (whatever that means) and when someone interprets it as the Word of God why the interpretations are as different as night and day. What spurs Jezebel to action is unknown and unknowable, but the motives of the Deuteronomist come through plainly in the text. And the truth will set them free. With a finite number of pages to set the course of human history,thiswas the best He could do? And it would probably have been futile anyway, especially as neither Elijah nor Jezebel would have accepted such an agreement. The Monty Python crew may have coined some of the best insults of the last 100 years:Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. The power of death is waning. I had the idea that I would go through the Bible and pull out bits that were relevant, so I started reading. The scourge of western culture. As much as you agree with the author of this article and communicate that the author of the story of Elijah, Ahab and Jezabel was biased against Jezabel, we also are not naive to the fact that you have your own biases against the Bible and Christians which are clearly evidenced in your writings; biases that reflect a variety of ideas held by various groups and parties in societythat are biased against Christians and the Bible, that make you react and communicate the way you do. So alas, she would have had no reason to feel that she had to learn anything about her new country. Bible The winged sphinx, winged sun disk and especially the falcon are well-known symbols of royalty in Egypt. I thought it was an excellent article. He too gladly had his religious opponents killed, and I dont see why God would be happy about that. If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And no matter what, the men are mostly still in charge of the family and the nation at large. When God cursed the serpent, he put enmity not only between the devil and the woman, but between both of their descendants. Dresse, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2014086, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200002463#h=6:0-6:748, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000138#h=3:0-4:536, http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/s/r1/lp-e?q=Jezebel&p=par, http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/people-cultures-in-the-bible/people-in-the-bible/how-bad-wa, The Gbekli Tepe Ruins and the Origins of Neolithic Religion. Image: Russell-Cotes Art Gallery and Museum, Bournemouth, UK/Bridgeman Art Library. Modern Christians may talk about God as a loving father, or even a Jesus buddy, the kind you'd want to play golf with, but in reality Bible-God goes out of his way to be intimidating. James Tissot c.1900. So you think that a law that tells you to kill people just because of their religion is just? Most of us in the Judeo-Christian tradition, and the majority of Muslims also, have evolved into a toleration, if not a total embrace, of religious pluralism, and believe that killing in the name of God is a sin. Jesus stood and spoke against the wickedness and corruption of power-wielding individuals and institutions, as well as members of the general communities. To disobey is to practice the art of witchcraft, which God clearly states will keep people out of the kingdom of heaven Revelation 21:8. As I believe was intimated above, the simple fact that one would denounce what here has been written because it is against the Bible or against their former beliefs, is to demonstrate a clear and unutterable ignorance, an obvious missing of the point, of the entire spirit of the article. Typical op edwhen will scholars teach instead of stealing and manipulating the minds of our young people. But there was a catch: Jesus would have to bow down and worship the devil. Proverbs Any true hearted seeker of biblical truth who studies the bible will see that. These Canaanites were among those who had mixed DNA of fallen angels. Do they peer-review articles and only publish the best so that have a reputation for scholarly work? That when he pronounced judgments of lice and frigs and flies, didnt the previous judgments already come to pass? In all three synoptic gospels, Jesus does three things after his trial in the wilderness: You can already start to see Satans power coming undone. Like I said in an earlier comment, I believe that she could have had two reasons for doing what she did: Either she actually believed that her gods wanted her to do it, or some of Jahves prophets had attacked Baals prophets. You just dont like it cuz its a women, give me a break? Imagine if he didnt, what would the world look like now? Her grooming continues as she dresses her hair, symbol of a womans seductive power. Humans need to watch out for evil spirits in our world today, the Bible warns. The author shows her bias against the truth and against the Bible. WebThe good and honest judge will not turn a blind eye. It is true though that Jezebel was no advocate for religious tolerance, judging by how she had Jahves prophets killed. (1Ki 16:30-33) Before long there were 450 prophets of Baal and 400 prophets of the sacred pole, all being fed from Jezebels royal table. The practices brought forth to the land of Israel with the introduction of these Phoenician deities were an abomination to the Lord, God of Israel. Silly food rules. Bible I found this a very interesting article on a different way to read how Jezebel is presented in the bible. they said. Thats your opinion. Contrary to common belief, 10, 000 years ago, in Afrika women ruled with their Goddess, priestess, business women, warriors and heritage was passed down from mother to daughter; oh yes, men stayed home and took care of children and if they wanted anything they had to ask the female for it. Jezebels death was prophecized by a true prophet of God, who Jesus says is willing that none should perish but that ALL come to him in repentance. Heathen? Denigration of handicapped people. 6 Cherubim. And because that is what Jezebel was, and because her side would eventually lose the war, people became free to smear her reputation and portray her as some evil monster. It would have been nice to read what can be learned about Jezebel without the feminist flavor added to it. Ahab married a woman that was more wicked than he was. Instead, the Bible strictlyforbidseating rabbit, shellfish, pork, weasels, scavengers, reptiles, and owls. Her evilness is not always as obvious, undisputed and unrivaled as the Biblical writer wants it to appear. Are you freaking kidding me? Evil is just plain evil. 11 kinds of Bible verses Christians love to ignore | Salon.com But God is the One who seeks and saves the lost. So a guy named Eliseus was traveling to Bethel when a bunch of kids popped up and 2) Turning Lot's Wife to Salt. I agree, Victoria. Absurd. Of course the underprivileged often have no other choice, but how do well-to-do parents sleep at night when they prefer to work countless hours (to buy a fancier house, car, clothes, toys, etc) instead of spending more time and attention on their sons and daughters? Theres certainly a great deal to learn about this subject. She minimizes Elijah while elevating Jezebel in order to erase the recording of a woman who was destructive to a country, its culture, its religion, and its purpose for existing. The kingdom of God is the aggressor. As we piece together the world in which Jezebel lived, a fuller picture of this fascinating woman begins to emerge. Why is this writer cared so much about that evil womans feelings! 8. Israels topography, customs and religion would certainly be very different from those of Jezebels native land. Israels most accursed queen carefully fixes a pink rose in her red locks in John Byam Liston Shaws Jezebel from 1896. When he begged Moses for the plagues to stop God stopped them right? The loving Heavenly Father warned His people that they would suffer the death penalty for worshiping false gods. Where did Tamar get her voice from when she confronted her rapist over his sin and cried out for justice? Learn fm their mistakes and fm their successes. This seems to have an immediate effect on her new husband, for just as soon as the queen is introduced, we are told that Ahab builds a sanctuary for Baal in the very heart of Israel, within his capital city of Samaria: He took as wife Jezebel daughter of King Ethbaal of the Phoenicians, and he went and served Baal and worshiped him. And to accuse Elijah of running away in fear of a mere woman when she already was known to command her guards to kill prophets she disagreed with? I got annoyed with this blog post. It is good for history that Elijah won that battle, although it was a temporary victory. In the workplace or in their personal lives, the blame for anything that goes wrong within their sphere of control and responsibility will be blamed on someone else, and that someone else will nearly always be a man. if he couldnt let go of his stubborness gor himself he coukd have at least had compasdion for his own nation to not drag them into judgement with him.God was determining to free his people from a people who was hell bent on keeping them as slaves and persecuted! I think Alice showed discernment . As the daughter, wife, mother, mother-in-law and grandmother of kings, Jezebel would understand court politics well enough to realize that Jehu has far more to gain by killing her than by keeping her alive. It is true that there are many men in the Bible, who are without doubt portrayed as evil. Collection Israel Museum/Photo Zev Radovan. tsk tsk. Lyall Phillips, South Australia, You left something out when you were talking about Jezebel. [4] Pagan, idol worshiping nations had no business in the position of royalty to begin with, so in this regard, Jezebels one redeeming characteristic might be found: she probably did not ask to be married off to begin with. The threat of Jezebel is so great that later in the same chapter, the mythic prophet Elijah summons the acolytes of Jezebel to a tournament on Mt. Some will even refer to the Buble as just a book of fairytales. Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. WebThe Christian Bible exercises "the dominant influence upon ideas about God and evil in the Western world gossip is evil: envy is evil, hatred is evil, to cling to false doctrine is evil; all these things are evil. Not at all perhaps they viewed Jezebel with the same benign tolerance as the author: courageous, loyal to her husband, just living by the morality she had learned at home with the gentle Sidonians. Jezebel had had her chances to get to know the real GOD, the righteous and Holy One. When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. But it gets even better. The translation of the Greek text is my own. Because its clear that the narrator wanted to see her as an evil shrew, so he could very much have exaggerated and even lied to portray her negatively. "Jews are the children of Satan" and the dangers of taking John After winning the Carmel contest, Elijah immediately orders the assembly to capture all of Jezebels prophets. Women are masters of deception and they use the word equality when really they are seeking supremacy. But in the passages that do seem to touch on the devils fall from grace, pride is a predominant theme. And as for Jezebel being against God, she was yet again raised into a totally different faith than yours. If a man has sex with an animal, he must be put to death, and the animal must be killed. [] r of God.God was delivered from the womb of woman.Woman provided God with nouris [], WOW just what I was searching for. Im sorry but isnt it a common practice especially in the Western world to sacrifice children by dumping them in child care or with a nanny as parents chase the almighty dollar? Im writing this yes, because Im picky, but also because I think that in order to have intellectual conversation (which, perhaps in the case of quite a few of the commentators is not the desire), a proper usage of the English language is prerequisite. In recent years, scholars have tried to reclaim the shadowy female figures whose tales are often only partially told in the Bible. But I guess that this is what 2800 years of mud-slinging will do to you, when you have lost a battle of religions and youre unable to give people your side of the story. the most bizarre stories from the bible But if you had read this article properlyh, you could have learned to see her as more than just a murderous monster. The word is derived from Latin serpens, a crawling animal or snake. More should be looked into the influence of the Raphaim, the Nephilim, and the gods spoken of by the Sumerians. Furthermore, it is really judgemental to talk about true and false gods. Inventors of evil things - Of new pleasures, new ways of gain, new arts of hurting, particularly in war. He had the right to demand what he wanted when he wanted it from his subjects. Alive, the dowager queen could always serve as a rallying point for anyone unhappy with Jehus reign. This article references it a good deal, and anyone interested in spiritual warfare should check it out, too. then he finally lets israel go. But yeah, she is the villain here since shea foreigner and devoted to the wrong religion. If I made a list of all the negative words you have used in this article the men would win 10-1 that seems strange.. no? This a God in whom I could put my trust. But its worse than just getting knocked to the ground. This clarification of the character of Jezebel is a minor, but significant, plot device in Isaac Asimovs trilogy of an Earth-born detective solving crimes involving Spacers (aristocratic descendants of the first human space colonists), the first two novels (The Caves of Steel, The Naked Sun) written in the early 1950s and the third (The Robots of Dawn) in the 1980s. Elijah leads his 450 prisoners to the Wadi Kishon, where he slaughters them (1 Kings 18:40). Psalm 10:7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and fraud: Under his tongue is mischief and vanity. Dear Dinger If you read my previous comments, you will see that I have already discussed Jezebels problem with adjusting to the Israelite culture. Like we saw earlier, he had grown powerful enough to demand that Jesus worship him in exchange for the nations Jesus had come to redeem. This should be titled an opinion piece. 13 Things The Bible Forbids I agree with you. And who says that your perspective is more correct than anyone elses? The article sums up the meaning of perversion! But it took us several decades to get even that far, because it has always been true that the victor will write the history of any conflict. and otherwise the bible simply isnt as true as it demonstrates god to be. The Bible doesnt tell us exactly when this will happen. ]2:21 I gave her time to repent, but she has no desire to repent of her immorality [symbolic of idolatry] and refuses to do so.Take note: I will throw her on a bed [of anguish], and those who commit adultery with her [her paramours] I will bring down to pressing distress and severe affliction, unless they turn away their minds from conduct [such as] hers and repent of their doings. You neglected to mention she was given an opportunity to repent of her sins and she refused. Jehus men inform the new king that Elijahs prophecies have been fulfilled: The queens corpse has been devoured by dogs; her body is mutilated beyond recognition, so that none will be able to say This was Jezebel (2 Kings 9:37). Then you will see that everybody doesnt have to share your faith. In fact your treatment of Gods word is shocking if not astonishing. But Baal does not respond to the ecstatic ranting of Jezebels prophets. I think the author of this article is prejudiced in that her agenda is clear: revive Jezebel in the best possible light. Even so, one might think that if an unchanging and eternal God were going to give out food rules he might have considered the earnest Middle-American believers who would be coming along in 2014. See Ruth Hestrin, Understanding AsherahExploring Semitic Iconography, BAR, September/October 1991. b. But that is also why an article in Jezebels favor is a welcome change, even if there might be a bias there too. According to Proverbs 6:16-19, There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community (NIV).
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